I’ve been following this case since it started.
Daniel Penny has been acquitted in the chokehold death of a homeless man aboard a New York City subway car last year.
The 26-year-old former Marine had been charged with second-degree manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide in connection with the May 2023 death of 30-year-old Jordan Neely.
A jury found Penny not guilty of criminally negligent homicide Monday — three days after a Manhattan judge dismissed manslaughter charge when the 12-member panel said it could not come to a unanimous decision on the first and more serious of the two charges. The second-degree manslaughter charge carried a maximum 15-year prison sentence; criminally negligent homicide carried a maximum sentence of four years. There was no minimum sentence for either charge.
Judge Maxwell Wiley had ordered the jury to return Monday to consider the second, lesser charge of criminally negligent homicide. It deliberated for less than two hours before delivering its verdict.
It’s a terrible thing to have to defend yourself and have it result in a death. No matter how justified it may seem, you never really know if you’re “in the clear” or not until the people who weren’t there and weren’t involved decide whether or not to take you to the docket.
No matter how “in the right” you think you are, it’s not up to you to decide, unfortunately. And the crappy part of that is that when you do need to defend yourself, you may waste valuable, precious fractions of a second in responding because you’re thinking about the legal after-effects.
I’m glad the jury did the reasonable thing and acquitted this guy, but his life is never, ever gonna be the same. Civil suits, reputational damage, etc, are all in store for him.
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All part of the process of continuing the process of enlarging the State and shrinking the individual. Progressive lawfare writ large and small.
“ Tutto all’interno dello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, niente contro lo Stato.”
(“All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”)
– Benito Mussolini December 9, 1928
And now the civil trial will begin from the perps POS family. They dumped his ass years ago but now they see money from whites folks and its: OHH my poor baby, he was turning his life around…
They will come at you if you are dumb enough to try and save people you don’t know. I stopped doing that a few years ago after a Denver commie cunt tried to get ME arrested after I stopped a scumbag from trying to rob her. Fuck anyone but family and real close friends…
Think positive regarding Dindu’s grifting family:
Maybe some fine upstanding citizen will choke them out too.
call the claims adjuster. crap, he got arrested. maybe another will take his place.
We really need more of this level of FAFO … and protection from civil suits when cleared of criminal charges.
On the other hand, IcyReaper has it right in the real world: “Fuck anyone but family and real close friends”
Too bad it has to be this way
Great to hear from all you Christian “good Samaritans”. BTW Samaritans weren’t Christian. That philosophy is much older and more civilized
You will find Prosecutor Fat Alvin Bragg at the local donut shop drowning his sorrows in donuts by the dozens and coffee by the gallons.
Alvin Bragg:
“He was a fattish but active man of paralysing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms – one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the Thought Police, the stability of the Party depended.”
The same can be said about the DA – except not fat
Amazing how 80 years later, Orwell is still on point
His campaign was funded by George Soros. He is one of those non prosecutorial prosecutors. Put in office by a Nazi collaborator to heap as much turmoil and kaos on society as possible. That is the MO in every left wing extremist revolution in the last 200 year’s. Bragg is an under achieving fat slob. Soros. Well he is just another. Eastern European Nazi thug.
Don’t get involved and if you do, make sure they don’t know who you are. Even if the jury did the right thing, his life will never be the same.
ALWAYS COUNTER SUE, even a claim of immunity can be overcome of you are sued first. Sue for false prosecution and Abuse of power.
My brother was accosted by his unstable neighbor with a handgun a little over 20 years ago. Due to the subsequent beat down administered to the suspect while my brother was defending himself and his nearby wife, the neighbor died. They arrested my brother for deliberate homicide, despite the fact he was unarmed and the armed neighbor was the aggressor. He was slandered in the local media, and the local county attorney at the time was corrupt as hell. It cost over $80,000 to wage a proper legal defense and after finally being granted a change of venue to a Missoula court, the judge dropped all charges and informed the county attorney that he never should have been charged in the first place as it was a clear case of self defense. My family won, but the damage done to my brother’s reputation and financial burden was severe. This all took place in good ole conservative Montana, so it can happen to anyone, anywhere if you happen to have a county attorney with his or her head up their ass.
Good reality report, thank you. Act as if you are behind enemy lines, because you are. As things stand all police, prosecutors, courts, media are suspect and are to be considered compromised and enemy agents. Thinking that you are logically doing the right thing is a fool’s errand. Sure, you had to make split second decision and all that, it does not matter later on when the beast system gears up it’s machinery if your case can be made political fodder. Having a super duper race gun and running shoot house drills is meaningless when a supposed, in your mind, good shoot is the subject of being prosecuted for a political agenda and fakely attached crime label. One would be better served by having a “thinking like a lawyer” mindset, rather than being a gun fan boy and fantasizing about white knight heroic shootout scenarios. Wiser men than me also would also provide such sound counsel as well. OL’ REMUS always advised, “avoid crowds”. Care for your family and blood allies friends only, avoid being entrapped in not your business incidents. Why? Because staying out of jail and prison is also a survival trait necessary in today’s world. Stay non incarcerated, thus staying frosty.
A different view point from the Great White North. Mr. Penny did what he felt he had to do. Did he use too much force? The courts say no. So that issue is settled. What you haven’t seemed to address is the fact that a mentally ill man was roaming the streets in distress and couldn’t get medical assistance. He continued to be a threat to people and should have been getting medical attention. I had family living in the US and they told me their health care costs! Ow me aching wallet! I know that a true universal medical care system is not practical for the US, based on taxes and population, so these situations will become more common as people break down due to all the stresses in life. Up here we have a Medi-care system based provincially and it is failing under its own weight for the same reasons, too expensive and too little care offered. However if someone comes into an Emergency room care is given. Too often the person needing help then wanders away, back into the streets and once the meds wear off, is at it again. In this situation two families have been impacted Mr. Penny’s and Mr. Neely’s family. Perhaps help should be offered to both parties. JMHO
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“However if someone comes into an Emergency room care is given.”
That is also the norm here.
Not only the norm but required by law. Our biggest problem is the shifting of money from taking care of people to the corporate side ie insurance companies, big pharma,big hospital groups and .gov. Those groups could suck the chrome off a ball hitch they are so good at sucking in the cash. The system is corrupted completely to the core. No where but down for us.
“My first day in office, I am going to ask Congress to put a bill on my desk getting rid of this disastrous law [Obamacare] and replacing it with reforms that expand choice, freedom, affordability. You’re going to have such great health care at a tiny fraction of the cost. And it’s going to be so easy!”
– Donald Trump… Oct. 25, 2016
hows that working out lol
Got a link to a video of that? Would go great with the Bush “Mission Accomplished” ,Billy Clinton “I did not have sex with that woman” ,Reagan ” We start bombing in 5 minutes” and a host of other presidential idiocy
“If you like you doctor, you can keep your doctor.”
Commander:
Mangione murder of CEO…
There used to be a saying “Damning with faint praise”.
The Wokes have turned this on its head.
They are praising with faint damns!
If a Republican had killed with a “Ghost” gun, they would be calling for the Death Sentence. As it is…Tumbleweeds
If he wasn’t a well known, Gay Woke, he would already be on the first of his many, MANY years in jail. As it is – Tumbleweeds…
Double standards, anyone?
Ceejay
I am an emergency physician, and worked in Canada (Ontario, mostly around Ottawa) for twelve years.
You’re paying just as much for health care. It’s buried in the ~50% income taxes you pay. And you get less.
Someone who is mentally disturbed shows up in an Emergency Department? Sure, happened all the time. They’d get medicated to the point they were able to care for themselves and not be a threat to others, and then discharged with a three day supply of meds and a referral to a mental health system. The waiting line for mental health care? Around 4 years.
Now, after the altercation on the subway, Mr. Perry attempted to provide medical care, and Neely was alive and breathing when the police arrived. I understand that the police administered naloxone (Narcan) and did nothing else, and Mr. Neely passed away prior to EMS arriving. The police are trained in providing CPR and artificial respiration, but did not do this nor monitor Mr. Neely.
And Mr. Perry was arrested and cuffed. So, why was he charged? There was a case to be made that the police were responsible for his death through negligent homicide, but that didn’t fit the narrative.
You’re entirely correct that we pay very high taxes both Federally and Provincially to have a Medi-Care system that is overburdened and under funded. Many Canadians have health insurance through Unions or Employers to make up the difference. So we are similar to you in circumstances if not results. I had eye surgery this year on both eyes and I paid no medical fees at all. My only expenses were travel to the City and hotels plus meals. I think I got my money back!! TTFN
I read somewhere that there are more MRI machines in Pittsburgh than all of Canada. And didnt some political figure come down to the US years ago for care or something rather than be subject to the waits and shortages?
Found it: https://www.sfgate.com/opinion/openforum/article/Why-Canadian-premier-seeks-health-care-in-U-S-3198150.php
You are probably correct. The wait time for MRI and ultrasound imaging is huge. Some cancer patience have to wait a year for an MRI. Sad but true. TTFN
I read somewhere that there are ‘veterinary’ clinics with MRI machines and that once the doors are closed and the blinds are drawn these businesses MRI humans for cash.
Thirty years ago in Silicon Valley I tossed my HMO medical plan and switched to a PPO. Saw a sports medicine doc, who decided that I should have an MRI of my neck and lower back. The MRI business was in the same business complex as the doc’s office. He scheduled them for consecutive times the FOLLOWING DAY.
They had never had a patient do that. They did my neck first, and then just ran me further into the machine for the lower back. They had to wake me up when the tray ran me back out of the machine! Might have been 1-1.5 hours inside.
” . . . a mentally-ill man in distress . . . ”
By White standards, about 85% of blacks are mentally ill – not by dissident Whites, but by what passed for ‘mental health professionals’ before the War on Whites was fully underway. No amount of ‘therapy’ or medication would have made Neely a functional, law-abiding, productive citizen. Spare your race-blind pity, and go bow down to the NHS again.
Neely wasn’t “mentally ill”, he was a career multi-felon in desperate need of lifetime incarceration.
When you’re doing alcohol and drugs 24/7/365, mental illness is a chicken/egg proposition, and cold turkeying him off both with a 25-to-life sentence would have been a humane and effective way to sort the wheat from the chaff, and put him where he could get all the help he needed, while keeping society safe from him in perpetuity.
Penny’s solution was less costly, and probably even more humane, all things considered.
The net loss to civilization from Neely’s removal is so negligible that it cannot be measured with existing instrumentation.
When the only argument to that proposition is from rent-seeking race grifters, the point is proven beyond any further disputation.
Penny should have been given a civic commendation, not a felony indictment.
Phil:
Perhaps it’s time the leftist wokes (everywhere!) stopped making excuses for the mentally ill and started reaching into their OWN pockets to help put it right.
Of course, putting their money where their mouths are has never been a priority for them…
Ceejay