Dagger impressions

So several weeks back I decided to order up a bunch of Palmetto State Armory (PSA) Glock knockoffs. The ‘Dagger’ pistol is basically a Glock with just enough tweaks to, I would imagine, keep Gaston’s lawyers at bay, but be Glock enough to be useful to folks like me.

Finally got around to taking a couple of them to the range today along with a couple P95DC’s I needed to test fire.

The Dagger shot very well. No failures of any kind, seemed as accurate as any other Glock, and even fit into the rather snazzy new Safariland 6390RDS ALS Glock holster I picked up.

The Dagger shot as well as the Glock, and fit my hand a little better. I don’t really have any complaint about it. I’d have to put a lot more ammo through one before I would stand on stage and declare it the equal of the Glock or that it was a perfect analog of a Glock. But….a lot of parts do interchange:

What’s the role of it in my world? Well, IF it has the reliability and durability of the Glock, then  it would make a no-brainer choice as a secondary or tertiary backup gun to someone who is invested in Glock logistics. If it takes Glock mags, Glock parts, Glock holsters, Glock sights, and Glock accessories, but is half the price of the Glock, then why wouldn’t you pick up a couple?

PSA has these things on sale…sometimes as a package deal. Let me see if I can find a recent one….Thats a pretty-much-as-good-as-a-Glock pistol and five standard Magpul mags and five happysticks for $370. For perspective, thats approx. $125, dealer price, of mags making the gun itself approx $245. That is a bargain no matter how you look at it.

I like to think I’ve got as many guns as I could possibly need for whats left of my checkered and tragic life, but at prices like these I’d feel no hesitation to pick up three or five as cabin guns, truck guns, tacklebox guns and, most importantly, gifts to people who I think need a good pistol and don’t already have one.

YMMV, of course, and I’d love to see Tam do one of her 2,000 round ammo tests with one of these (but who can afford that much ammo these days?). I’ll be shooting these things more in the coming weeks, but so far I like what I see.

Dagger

The primary reason I’m a big fan of the Ruger P95 is that for the price (usually $200), you can’t find a 9mm handgun of equal quality and durability. That doesn’t mean the P95 is the ‘best’ 9mm….it simply means that for $200 it’s the best you’ll find. There are other 9mm’s that are superior due to the P95’s dated design.

Most of the P95’s (but not all…most, though) lack an accessory rail, the sights are functional but thats about all you can say about them, threaded aftermarket barrels are virtually unheard of, magazines are proprietary, spare parts are tricky (although I’ve never heard of anything breaking), ergonomics are lacking, and finding a good holster is a trick.

What the P95 brings to the table is utter brute ruggedness, reliability, and economy.

But, if I could get rid of all those negatives and still keep the price down there in the 200’s, then it might be worth moving along to a different platform.

There are a few Glock knock offs floating out there these days, as well as a few well-regarded polymer pistols (Canik, Steyr, etc). The one that caught my eye was Palmetto State Armory’s (PSA) entry…their Dagger 9mm.

The Dagger is clearly a Glock knock-off. So much so, in fact, that the slides/frame interchange although there are some internal parts that are unique. But there’s also a rather large amount of parts that do interchange. And it takes Glock magazines, Glock holsters, Glock sights, and can be had in different colors and with slides that have features such as dot mounts, forward mounted rear sights, etc. But, what separates it from the other Glock wannabes is the price.

PSA sells the frames and slides separate for those who already have a Glock slide (or frame) around that they need to mate up to make a complete gun. So, if you don’t want to buy an already assembled gun (and its excise tax), you can order a frame and order a lower. PSA regularly offers ‘blems’ at a discount and also has ‘flash sales’. It’s that combination of discounts that  made me decide to give them a try.

‘Sniper green’ complete frames were on sale as blems for $59. Okay, sign me up. And then they had a flash sale on ‘sniper green’ complete slides with threaded(!) barrels, suppressor height sights, and optics mounting plate. $199. Again, count me in.

So, for $260 I wind up with an off-brand Glock. Or did I? A gun that is unreliable or just plain won’t work is no bargain. I’ll take it to the range and dump a couple hundred rounds of ball through it.

But what is more interesting is to examine how it changes the logistics environment.

The Ruger P95DC (and P89DC) were never my ‘run out the door’ gun. When it’s time to grab a rifle, pack, and go,go,go my pistol choice will be the Glock. And the Glock is also my secondary tier gun as well, which is why I have so many. But sometimes there are situations where you don’t want to ‘waste’ a $500 pistol. A gun for under the seat of the truck, a gun hidden in a stall out in the barn, a gun tucked in a drawer at your remote cabin, a loaner for friends, etc, etc. Those are the times you want what essentially amounts to a disposable handgun. Good enough to do the job well, but cheap enough that if you lose it you don’t really care. For that scenario, the Rugers fit the bill perfectly.

For $60 more though, I get the economy of not having to buy specific magazines….my stash of Glock magazines will work fine. Same for holsters. And a large amount of my spare parts. And manual of arms. And accessories for the rail. And a threaded barrel for a can. And is a candidate for the ‘carbine/pistol combo that share a common magazine’. Since there’s no need to buy proprietary mags at $20/mag, and no need for a particular holster since I can use my GLock holsters, that would offset, I think, the $60 difference.

So, although in this case its about 1/3 more expensive than a $200 P95DC, the advantages may make it worth the extra coin. And, even at $260, youre still well below the price of most big-name 9mms. And there’s the additional economic incentive of not having to buy extra mags since the existing supply of Glock mags takes care of that side of things.

Pretty much every review I’ve seen so far seems to affirm that they’re pretty much what youd expect – a no-name Glock with mostly Glock performance. But, there’s no substitute for empirical data so I’ll be taking a couple to the range and seeing how they go.

I’ve no intention of dumping two dozen Ruger 9mm pistols on Gunbroker and replacing them all with the PSA gun…I’ve already established the logistics base, so wht not keep them? But for the places where I’d stash a P95DC, I might swap them out for the PSA and get the benefit of being able to leave extra mags, a mounted light, and any one of the huge number of very affordable holsters out there for the Glock.

We’ll see….they should be here this week.

Scabbard

A dear friend of mine, after reading my post about BBQ guns, sent me a link to a place that has their own BBQ holster/belt package. Indeed, a pretty cool looking rig. However, that really interested me was that they are manufacturing a leather rifle scabbard for AK’s and AR’s.

I have to say, that would be a pretty cool accessory for the person with a hayburner.

They actually used to make scabbards for M1 Garand rifles back in the day. Of course, being a semi auto, there has to be an accommodation for the charging handle and the Garand scabbards have a metal shield over a cutout in the scabbard to make that accommodation.

I suppose a scabbard would be handy on a 4×4 or motorcycle but I’d think most of the time you’d be just as well serviced by having the rifle slung at your side or across your back.

Regardless, its nice to see, in a world full of kydex, that there are still folks working in great-smelling, creaking, looks-better-with-age leather.

Speaking of BBQ guns

A couple people were curious what I wanted in a barbecue gun. Well, my plan was one of the following:

In a nice extra fancy floral engraved Tom Threepersons holster from El Paso Saddlery.

And, of course, a nice set of showy grips.

Now, I know an engraver here in the valley who does good work ( Mike Gouse ), but I rather prefer factory engraving even if it’s just machine done.

So, there you have it. Attend some big social function and if you see some goober with a gussied up GP-100, well, say hi ’cause its probably me.

Texas…why did it have to be Texas?

The first and last time I was in Texas was not exactly a resoundingly good time. It left a bad taste in my mouth, and a hole in my foot, and I resolved that I was done with Texas.

And then I had a wedding reception to go to in San Antonio. On the bright side, it wasnt nearly as hot as the last time I was down there. And I didnt get bit by fire ants this time either. But I was mightily annoyed at the preponderance of one-way streets and crazy drivers.

But, this time I had a bit of time to go visit gun shops. I hit three or four which were all pretty lame, and then I found this place. Selection? Outstanding. General atmosphere? Very polished and upscale. Staff? Stretched thin but mostly knowledgeable. Prices? Hgih, by my standards. But I saw not one but two HiPower GP comeptition guns and damn near bought one. Saw a Cetme L, piles of minty 100 year old 1911’s, three HK squeezecockers, and a bunch of other hey-you-dont-see-that-every-day guns. (And a genuine FN-made FAL which made me think long and hard….)

Other than that, still not really diggin’ Texas. However, I have resolved that I very much need a barbecue gun.

So there you have it. Another trip to Texas, another reason for me to appreciate Montana. You guys in Texas…Im sure you love it and all, but it just isn’t for me.

Wouldn’t you?

Minding my own business, I swing by the shop to visit my buddy. I notice a styrofoam clamshell box on his desk. Hmmm.

  • Me: Whats in the box?
  • Him: Thompson Contender
  • Me: What caliber?
  • Him: .45 Colt / .410
  • Me: Ugh. Whaddya want for it?
  • Him: $150
  • Me: Uh..Ill be back in a few minutes. I gotta swing by an ATM.

And thats how that happened.

I actually already have two Contenders and a handful of barrels. My favorite is a 21″ .30-30 carbine sitting in a Choate stock. With open sights it weighs just under five pounds. A wonderful lightweight carbine for running through the timber.

And for a hundred and fifty bucks….why not? I think the .45/.410 barrel is useless, so I’ll dump it on eBay and get $150 for it which will make the frame and furniture a freebie.

I like the Contender as a test platform for my reloads. As a break open single shot it eliminates a lot of variables and makes an excellent test platform. Does it have any survivalist-centric special uses? I suppose someone will think that the interchangeable nature of the barrels gives some sort of advantage but….no. Why wouldnt you just have a .22 rifle, a .30 bolt gun, maybe a .223 of some kind, in full-size repeating guns? About the only advantage I can see is that if you live in some environ that limits the number of firearms you can own, it might be useful. But, really, its just a fun gun to play with various calibers.

Sure, I’ll slap the 14″ .44 barrel on it and go knock down Bambi. But in a world where knocking down an animal means the difference between full bellies and starvation? I’ll use the gun that gives me the most advantage and thats probably gonna be a .308 of some kind.

But for a hundred and fifty bucks….why not add a little range toy to the collection? Especially if I can get it to pay for itself by unloading that .45/.410 barrel.

Insomnia + Gunbroker + low impulse control =

What do I do with all these pistols? Well, my original intent was to pack them away for that oft-prophesized Rainy Day. Nowdays, though….it’d be a diluvian-sized bit of precipitation to require as many of these things as I have sitting in storage.

Four pistols and eight magazines fit into a Pelican 1400 case, safe and snug (not that these guns need babying) as they await Der Tag. And..I’ve several of these Pelican cases sitting on the shelf.

You know whats tough, though? Finding quality holsters for these things. Oh sure, you can get an Uncle Mikes nylon POS but I want better than that. They do fit in the UM84-series of holsters, which is nice, but if you want a nice DeSantis, Galco, or Bianchi holster that’s made and molded to fit these things…good luck. I hit eBay for used ones and they almost never turn up…these guns were just never very popular. There’s plenty of off-brand leather and kydex out there but…Im a snob.