Speaking of armour….destructive testing

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A few years ago (and it must have been quite a few years ago because I can’t find it in my almost ten years of blog posts) the LMI and I were in a surplus store and found a size extra-small flak jacket. You know, one of those Vietnam/Nation Guard vests that look like an olive life preserver. (Technically, I guess thats exactly what it is, come to think of it.) Anyway, being an oddball size it was an easy thing to figure let’s spend $15 on it, take it to the range, and see what happens.

If youre the TL;DR type, here it is succinctly: all pistol except super-fast bullets were stopped. No .45 ACP, no 9mm, no .40 S&W, no .38 Special penetrated the vest. The handgun bullets that did penetrate were lightweight (180 gr.) .44 bullets driven at ‘dont try this at home’ velocities and uber-light (95 gr.) JHP’s out of a .357 with similar speeds. Both those bullets were approaching low-end rifle velocities so no surprise there since penetration in conventional firearms is almost always more about velocity than bullet construction. You push a gumball fast enough, it’ll penetrate.

Once we’d exhausted the gamut of pistol calibers and various loadings it was time to move onto the rifles. No surprises there. Shredded kevlar was everywhere. Nothing was stopped.

None of this is going to be a surprise to anyone with a logical mind. Flak jackets were designed to stop irregular shaped pieces of metal at moderate velocities. A .451″ piece of lead traveling at 950 fps is pretty close to that demographic. Higher velocity stuff will just whip through it.

So, in a nutshell, yes they’ll stop most non-magnum pistol rounds and .22. They will not stop anything from a rifle (unless its a rifle that shoots pistol cartridges). Better than nothing, and cheap enough (usually) that almost everyone can at least afford one, but there are better choices if you can swing it.

ETA: It would be criminally negligent of me to forget to mention that if you want real-world info on what will and will not stop a bullet, not armchair theory, then you need to head over to The Box O’ Truth. Shooting bullet proof glass, kevlar vests, sheetrock, car doors….these guys do it all and the information is priceless.

And here’s where they shot a flak jacket and chronicled the results.

Gerber Downrange Tomahawk

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Hmmm. Gerber has a new product out…Gerber Downrange Tomahawk. I suppose it’s only a matter of time before product-placement puts it on ‘The Walking Dead’.

Kinda interesting. Specs say weighs less than 2# which makes it many times lighter than my FuBarForcible Entry Tool. Unlike a lot of Gerber’s offerings these days, this product is being made in the US. I’m curious as to how durable this thing is for prying…to small and lightweight and it’ll bend like pretzel, too rigid and sturdy and it’ll be too heavy to carry. And, of course, theres always the tacitly implied usage about being suitable for…’other’…uses.

Looks interesting and I’d like to play with one, but not sure I have a need for it at the moment. I do expect it to turn up on the Walking Dead at some point though.

Zombie e-cards, zombie classes, zombie programming

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It’s been a zombie-themed day.

First off, someone texted me this:

I won’t say that when I got married there was a checkbox for ‘can kill zombies’, but there was a checkbox for ‘will not impede or hinder preparedness’.

Then, for giggles I head over to Rosauers to see how their 25% off sale on storage food was going. Quite well, apparently…there were some major gaps on the shelves. I like to think I’, kinda responsible for that by letting the local LMI’s know.

And finally, I watched E2S3 of ‘The Walking Dead’ yesterday. One thing I enjoy about this show is that afterwards my wife usually gets thoughtful and makes supportive comments about our lifestyle or recommends that we buy more food/gear/ammo. Thumbs up, either way.

And finally , this amazing email from REI shows up:

Missoula REI — Zombie Preparedness – Surviving a Zombie Apocalypse

Description: Imagine a viral outbreak has occurred wiping out a majority of the local population and other major cities throughout the globe. The fatal virus is to be considered highly contagious and dangerous. Nicknamed the “Zombie Disease,” because those killed by the disease seem to be returning to life and prey upon the living. We are now facing a full fledged attack. Those of us left alive must now ask ourselves, “Where do we go from here? How will we survive and maintain the existence of the human race?” You are invited to attend the Zombie Preparedness Class at REI, where you will learn valuable survival techniques that could save your life. These same techniques could be invaluable in the event of any natural disaster in an urban environment.

My first thought was not “Are they serious?”, my first thought was not “Awesome!”, no..my first thought was “REI has a zombie specialist?”. I must attend this…if for no other reason than to see who shows up. I mean, really…what’s the crowd for this gonna look like? I expect a mix of casual college-age ‘this sounds like fun’ types, a few tinfoil hatters, and some ‘maybe this is really about preparedness’ types. I wonder what the pitch at REI management was like when this came up ..”Steve! I’ve got an idea for a class!….”

Armour musings

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Dammit. Lost one of my gloves today. The irony is that this glove was not one of the 40 or so pairs of surplus wool gloves I picked up last year, but rather one half of a unique set. I can console myself, I guess, by knowing I’ve got several dozen pairs of other gloves but still…annoying. Nice to not be too inconvenienced by it though. Swore at myself for being careless, and then pulled a pair outta storage.

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I get so wrapped up, from time to time, in the guns-n-mags aspect of proposed legislation that I sometimes overlook some of the ancillary stuff. There was a link on Drudge to an article about a fella who, apparently, shot up a home, set it ablaze, and then offed himself. When he was found, it was noted, and played up a bit, that he was wearing body armour.

From time to time, legislation is proposed (or passed) to limit the availability of body armour to ‘civilians’. (Quick semantic argument: cops are civilians, too.) In some localities, these types of rules are already in place. Most folks would say if you arent a cop or security guard, why would you need body armour? Isn’t that just a wee bit over-the-top?

Some folks in ‘high risk’ businesses wear body armour. I know there are jewelry shops and diamond vendors in NYC who wear the stuff. There’s probably more than one pharmacist somewhere who wears it under their smock. And there are probably plenty more industries and businesses, some in ‘high crime’ areas, that have folks wearing it.

I’ve had several sets of body armour over the years. I could probably count the times I’ve worn it on one hand. Almost always those times were at the range when teaching newbies to shoot. I think the only time I ever actually wore it ‘for reals’ was one time when I was accompanying someone on a ‘large(!!) amount of cash’ transaction. (Also the only time I ever carried two pistols. I figured if I needed the armour I’d need the guns, and vice versa.)

Given that very, very low usage rate, is there a place for body armour in preparing for the uncertain future? Arguable, I think. Certainly I’d rather have it and not need it blah, blah…. But on the other hand, it’s fairly expensive for something that you’ll probably never use and those resources can be best used elsewhere. It’s a choice between dumping several hudrred dollars on something you may never use versus dumping it on something you may be more likely to use (like food.)

I suppose the degree of practicality depends on the particular flavor of apocalypse that you see coming. If youre convinced that the end of the world looks a lot like ‘The Stand’ you probably don’t have as urgent a need as if the end of the world looked like ‘Jericho’. While pretty much every permutation of the apocalypse will have gunfire in it’s soundtrack at some point, you never know if it’ll be the refrain or just a few opening notes. Take the LA Riots for example:

Korean store employees/owners ca. 1992. +20 for friend-or-foe identifying headbands, -100 for ballistic resistance.

No one really planned on an impromptu re-enactment of Rio Bravo that day, and I’m sure that a nice set of plates in a good carrier would have been quite welcome. (Although there are pictures from the riots that do show some merchants wearing body armour.) The point being that although this was hardly an end-of-the-world event it was certainly an event that would have called for some serious ballistic protection.

As the economy declines, people start queuing up for food, and robberies become more common it would be nice to have some concealable body armour to wear on those trips to the barely-stocked supermarket or no-more-than-three-people-in-the-store-at-once convenience stores. When the gloves come off and it’s Katrina-ville where subtlety is uncalled for, then it’s time for the less discrete armour systems.

Personally, I doubt there’s much in my future that requires a high level of personal ballistic resistance. My goal in life is to leave ugly armed encounters to others and keep openings in my body limited to the ones I came with from the factory. But, you never know what’s gonna happen. So….there’s armour in storage.

My point, though, is that eventually this is another product that is going to get nudged out of the ‘readily available’ market and tucked away into the ‘Mil/LE only’ market. If not by legislative shenanigans then by economic ones as the manufacturers and distributors are ‘encouraged’ to restrict the availability to ‘legitimate end users’.

If you don’t think youre going to need either concealable armour or plates in a carrier then don’t worry about it. But if you think it’s something youre going to want down the line, you may want to consider acquiring some before it stops being overlooked by the ‘ban it for the children’ crowd.

Shelf abuse

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Picked up another rack of steel wire shelving the other day. At the rate things are going, in terms of us stocking up on more and more items in larger and larger quantities, it was necessary. Unfortunately, CostCo must have moved to a different supplier of these made-in-China wonders because when I tried to combine the uprights with my older shelves the adjustements didnt line up properly. Spent about three hours last night assembling, dis-assembling, and then re-assembling shelves to try to get them to line up right. Finally had to get out a level and some shims but I finally got it. Major pain in the ass though. After finally giving up for the evening I plopped down in front of the computer to play Warcraft for a few horus and said “You know, sometimes being a survivalist is a major pain in the ass.” “Yeah, but think about how happy you’ll be when youre warm and fed”, was her reply. True. Still a pain, though.

Since I was moving shelving around I had to move the contents of the shelves around as well. Many of the items on the shelves have their date, purchase price and place of purchase marked on them. In this way, I can keep track of things. I noticed that on items where a price had been noted a year or so ago, and a new version had been purchased recently, prices were around10% higher. For example, ziploc bags from Costco were $9.99 a year ago and were $10.75 yesterday. About 7.5% increase from last time an amount was purchased.

So, unless you’re making 10% more than you did a year ago you are getting less value for your money these days. :::shrug::: Not much you or I can do about it except shop carefully and strategically.

 

Link – Disaster shelter offers full kitchen, flat-screen TV

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ALTAMONTE SPRINGS, Fla. –

Could a “Doomsday Bunker” protect your family in case of disaster? One local business thinks so and is offering tours of an Atlas corrugated pipe shelter.

Al’s Army Navy Store in Altamonte Springs is selling a 32×10-foot shelter. The unit is designed to go 20 feet underground, and can offer protection from hurricanes, tornadoes and other disasters.

You know, I rather like these culvert-style shelters but I really would probably prefer them above-ground. Just put up some wood cribbing, get some forms, encase the whole thing in cement, plant some ivy over it and you’d be good to go. Probably a great way to go in hurricane country where digging into a low water table isnt a good idea…encase it in a couple feet of concrete and no hurricane is gonna screw with you. And best of all – no sewage pump.

Local sale

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Local LMI…..

Rosauers on Russell & South has the Augason Farms storage food on sale at 25% off. Selection is limited to only about a dozen different items, but thats still a good deal. Apparently it runs from 10/17 to 10/23.  A quick check at Augason Farms website shows these prices to be better (in some cases much better) than the price from the website.

My thanks to the fellow valley-dweller who emailed me this and brought it to my attention.

Obama wants the ban back

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You know, pretty much all along I have been saying that one of the reasons Obama has been quiet on gun control is because the Democratic party is still stinging from some previous blowback. However, in a second term, where re-election is no longer an issue, he can impose whatever he wants with virtually no consequence. This is what I believed and some folks actually called me out on it saying not only was Obama not anti-gun he supported pro-gun legislation and that I was just being paranoid and dogmatic.

Please allow me to draw your attention in this direction for a moment:

President Obama tonight said he’s interested in seeing an assault weapons ban reintroduced, breaking his silence on the legislation, which has persisted in spite of at least five mass shootings during his term.

At the end of a long answer to the question, “What has your administration done or planned to do to limit the availability of assault weapons?” Obama said this:

“My belief is that, (A), we have to enforce the laws we’ve already got, make sure that we’re keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, those who are mentally ill. We’ve done a much better job in terms of background checks, but we’ve got more to do when it comes to enforcement.

“But I also share your belief that weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don’t belong on our streets. And so what I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my home town of Chicago, there’s an awful lot of violence and they’re not using AK-47s. They’re using cheap hand guns.”

As a candidate in 2008, Obama campaigned on permanent reinstatement of the expired assault weapons ban, and Attorney General Eric Holder in 2009 indicated that the administration would lobby for a bill. But that never materialized and the White House has largely avoided talking about it.

In August, after the Sikh Temple shooting, Jay Carney said, “He does support renewing the assault weapons ban.”

But tonight is the first time during his first term that the sentiment has come from the president’s mouth.

 

Can’t make it much clearer than that. I promise you that tomorrow morning every manufacturer of AR receivers is going to feel like it’s Christmas.

When survivalists die……….

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My father was completely prepped for the “big one” he expected this year. Then a few months ago he had a massive heart attack and died. He left lots of debt. He expected the economy to collapse this year and thus was buying supplies on credit and wasn’t paying his bills.

I have more than enough supplies of my own so I don’t want them. He had everything from generators, seed, grain grinder, camping supplies to emergency essentials food, 55 gallon drums, and bottles of propane.

I’ve been using the 55 gallon drums of gasoline to fuel my truck. I’ve taken about a ton of scrap metal to the recyclers. Given away as much cat food and as many mason jars as I can get anyone to take.

 

If you die after living a life of preparedness and it turns out you never needed any of those things you put back away for that ‘rainy day’, I consider that a win.

Walking Dead Season 3

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I like “The Walking Dead” for the same reason I like any post-apocalyptic fiction. It’s a chance to play ‘what if’ and to perhaps think a little ‘outside the box’. Sometimes it makes one think about things that might not otherwise have been considered. Think of it as preparedness war gaming.

Season three, it seems, appears to address recurring issues people just would not get over – specifically firepower. After two seasons of nothing more aggressive than pump shotguns we see an underfolder AK and an M4 in the hands of our heroes, as well as some homemade suppressors for the pistols. Also, small-unit tactics have greatly improved with everyone knowing their job, doing it quickly, and keeping their head together when its time to go to Plan B.

While I appreciate that any zombie-themed show is going to have some gore, I really hate gore for it’s own sake. This show seems to do that once in a while but the story is usually tight enough I can forgive it.

All in all, it’s shaping up to be an interesting season if this first episode is anything to go by.

Trivia: Daryl’s bad-ass knife is a Busse Team Gemini. Spendy knife for a trailer-park redneck….$375.