7 thoughts on “Beretta mag arrival”

  3. Wow ! Shootie goodness pictured. John Wick is mega happy – that is about half a day’s work for him. Bad Guys worried..

  4. Mine just came in and each magazine is wrapped in cellophane. Should I leave it on before storing?

  5. Speaking of the M92 Beretta. Anybody know if the government will be selling these as surplus through the Civilian Marksmanship Program.
    They are selling 1911 Colts now. I was working for the Michigan DMA at the time the guard was changing over to the Beretta. Several of the uniformed people I encountered were not pleased. Several were veterans of Korea and Vietnam.
    One Sgt Major told me the 45 ACP can stop anything on the battlefield. Going to a less powerful cartridge with more rounds didn’t increase the hit probability. It just gave more ammo to miss with. Many in the Spec Ops community still carry a 45 acp chambered handgun. Some of the newer Colts made for competition are used.
    With the number of 1911 variants that come out every year. It’s obvious this old veteran won’t be gone from the battlefield for many decades to come.
    Like the M16 and it’s introduction in Vietnam. Most referred to it as a mouse gun.
    Personally I’m glad the Army is going with the 6.8mm ARC. At least that’s what the publications are saying. The 6mm gives greater accuracy over longer distances. And it can hit a target at twice the max range of the 5.56mm round. Or 300 meters. Many of the outfits producing the AR M4 types rifles are offering their products in all or most of the 6mm calibers.
    I see the start of a revolutionary period ahead in both military and civilian marksmanship. Couldn’t come at a better time.

    • “Going to a less powerful cartridge with more rounds didn’t increase the hit probability. It just gave more ammo to miss with.”

      I love the argument that “Going from low capacity .45 caliber to that high capacity smaller caliber is a step backwards”.
      I can imagine some troopper saying that when the pulled his Springfield .45-70 and handed him a high capacity Krag.

      According to Sanow, the statistical difference in stopping between .45 and 9mm, both using FMJ, is less than a couple percentage points. Statitically, 9mm FMJ and .45 FMJ are virtually identical.

      • I would agree and disagree. Back when US forces were changing over in the mid eighties there were two rounds that met Geneva Convention requirements. A 115 great FMJ round and a 122gr FMJ. I acquired a Smith and Wesson Model 39-2 in the mid seventies. Hollow point ammo wasn’t a regular feature at the time. Although you could get it. I reloaded 500 rds of 95 gr JHP ammo. Had issues with feeding. The feed ramp was designed to use the FMJ ammo. The hollow points were hit and miss. Failures to feed being the biggest issue.
        Come forward to today. Over the last two decades there has been a large amount of research and development in ammo technology. New bullet designs abound. The new designs have greater stopping power by virtue of higher velocity and great penetration. The 9mm of then. Is nowhere near the efficiency of the modern ammo of today.
        But the military began issuing pistols as a main part of the loadout kit recently. Since the advent of the War on Terror began. Once only officers and noncoms carried hand guns. At one time before WWI in the wars of the 19th century knives were purchased by the soldiers themselves. Bayonets at one time were not anything like today. In the 20th century the bayonet could serves as a knife. In WWI trench knives were issued. By WWII the KaBar and Ontario Knife Company knives were standard issue. Even the Navy adopted the KaBar Mk1.
        The point is. Without training and range time shooting a handgun takes a great deal more training to master then the long gun. Hence the military in WWII adopted the M1 carbine as a replacement for the 1911 Colt.
        Times and conditions change. Especially in warfare. It’s taken from the 1960s till today for the military to realize the M4 and it’s cartridge might have been well suited to the jungles of Southeast Asia because of the close quarters proximity of the engagement. But at the distances encountered in Afghanistan and Iraq a cartridge with greater range and accuracy was needed. But then the military has always started the next war with the tactics and basic equipment of the last war. The most glaring example was the siege of Petersburg that ended the Civil War and the stagnant war fought in the trenches of France in 1917 to the Lighting war of movement that marked the battles of WWII across Europe and North Africa. Things change rapidly in war. Unfortunately the thinking of the high command of militaries is slow to react and respond to change.

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