Canadian party leaders taking a refreshment break outside of parliamentary chambers….
I astutely and correctly predicted that it was simply a matter of time before the weasels at ATFE pushed for the same. I also predicted that the music was winding down for the arm brace party. Look, it doesn’t take a crystal ball to to see that when:
a) you challenge ATFE in court about AR receivers not meeting the legal definition of receivers…and win…
and
b) you make ‘arm braces’ that are, let’s be real, not really ‘arm braces’ and sell them by the trainload….
ATFE is gonna think “Hmmm…maybe we should do something about that.” All the clamoring about “Constitutionality” and “will not comply!” doesn’t change the boots-on-the-ground facts: .gov will do what it wants and then address the legalities later. You may be proven right later, but you’ll be warming up a cell as you wait.
I expect that what will happen is that ‘arm braced’ pistols will be allowed to be papered as SBR’s with the $200 tax waived. This is similar to what happened when ATFE reclassified the Street Sweeper and USAS-12 shotguns. For the fella that has a bucket of stripped $29 poverty pony lowers sitting around, its an opportunity to ‘make’ a dozen SBR’s and save some money.
We had a relatively quiet four years under Trump in regards to gun legislation. Not perfect, but not terrible. Only a short-sighted idiot could possibly believe that the Biden people weren’t going to try and push the ‘gun control’ agenda more aggressively.
So…what next? Well, if you thought you were beating the rush by buying a ton of stripped lowers you may wanna fire up your Visa card and order a corresponding amount of stripped uppers….just in case.
Agreed on stocking up on uppers (pun intended) – as well as stripped lowers BUT if ya use your credit card for those purchases, the WILL be traced……………….
And barrels. That is the one part that is really hard to make at home.
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The way its done in Europe is, from a control standpoint, pretty smart – the pressure-bearing parts are controlled. Since the pressure bearing parts are usually more difficult to make, and rather critical in terms of being not made poorly, and therefore beyond the scope of most people in terms of manufacture.
Correct. Expect your lawmakers to look to Europe for stuff to regulate. Your readers should stock up on BCG’s in addition to uppers and barrels. Lowers should already be in your inventory.
Is there a “legally specified maximum length” for buffer tubes?
Are rubber crutch tips legal, or are they also Title II devices?
How about duct tape? Pool noodles? I don’t see either mentioned anywhere in NFA ’34.
Unless I’m missing something, an AR-15 with a barrel not exceeding 15 inches and a naked buffer tube is a legal pistol. And, also if I’m not missing something, almost every “arm brace” sits on a naked buffer tube. Are they proposing buffer tubes will also be Title II devices? Or, does removal of the “arm brace” from the buffer tube resolve the Title II issue? Will “constructive possession” be applied to ownership of an AR-15 AND an “arm brace”? (Stupid question, you know it will, and probably applied to anyone who lives near someone who can spell “arm brace”.)
No, they are proposing you can’t have the brace.
Zero
Since the ATFE and .gov cronies are looktto regulate the aforementioned items why would they do so at no cost to the nasty gun nut guys that want them? I believe they would SBR them AND charge those owners the 200 bucks also.
Also to those who own a boat of hi cap mags which the Biden/Harris team wants to ban sale of, what happens if they make even possession of them illegal? Then one would have to keep these mags under hiding until such time, if ever, there was no WROL.
ATFE, by making the registration ‘free’, accomplishes a buncha things – it gets people to register things that they might otherwise not register because of the $200, ATFE gets to show a high compliance number that justifies their actions, future possession of unregistered arm braced pistols looks worse in court because ‘you were given the chance to register it FOR FREE and you didnt!’, ATFE avoids a couple million confiscatory raids, and some people are placated about having to register their toys since ‘it didnt cost me anything to do it’.
So…yeah, I think they’ll waive the registration tax.
Except, the legality of the NFA and the stamps are that they are all ‘taxed’, If you can register for free, then it’s not a tax.
A tax is whatever John Roberts says it is…judging by recent history.
When is this train wreck of a society going to wake the hell up and not just think, but actually do – Maybe We Should Do Something About That !!!
I’m talking about “Shall Not Be Infringed” – NO – it’s that simple, end of discussion, no compromise, no nothing, now kindly go away and do your jobs according to rules laid out in the Constitution and no more. Now leave me the Hell alone…… Least you end up in a situation strikingly familiar to the happening on Lexington Green in 1769 April 19th. You Will Not Win…..
As long as they re allowed to push with no push back they will continue to encroach on ALL our God Given Rights. PUSH THE HELL BACK… And you start by removing every single representative and senator from office Pronto…
When the Ungoverned become Ungovernable – Let Them Heard Cats…
Posted on this very blog 2 weeks ago.
jackalope on April 8, 2021 at 12:36 PM said:
If Joe was smart, he would declare a short amnesty with free and expedited tax stamps to get everyone on the registry. Or categorize them as AOWs. $5 stamp. Still get them into a registry. Lots of guys are more concerned about the $200 than they are about their rights being stolen away. They (Dems) don’t understand how easy it would be to register tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of weapons by simply giving us what we want. In this case, it would be a pretty slick trap.
But, if we who already own brace-equipped pistols are declared to be in violation of the law, I will just put actual stocks on the pistols. Might as well go all in.
I’ve been saying the same think. Make the brace illegal ill put what I really want on there.
Loving that we now live in a 2nd ammendment sanctuary state. But that only means we can keep what we have inside the state. Anything manufactured outside montana can be regulated out of existence.
I recently went on an adventure to Tennessee. Made a wrong turn and found myself in Illinois. For the next 35 miles, at 3am, I was suddenly committing 15 weapons felonies just because I crossed a line. Nerve racking until I got outta there.
I’ve told my family and friends, if they change the laws overnight and I suddenly become a criminal / felon, I hope to be the best criminal / felon they ever saw.
Having a threaded barrel for a pistol (not installed, or even owning any pistol at all) is the same under the law as having a suppressor (strictly verboten)…
All barrels on handguns must be MORE than 4″ long. Because anything shorter is too easy to conceal. Ever tried to conceal a .357 Mag 4″?
Oh, and once you have a PAL (possession and acquisition license) you can be visited at any time by the police for an ‘inspection’. You are not entitled to be there for the inspection….
“Oh, and once you have a PAL (possession and acquisition license) you can be visited at any time by the police for an ‘inspection’. You are not entitled to be there for the inspection….”
Actually, this statement is incorrect!! There is no provision is any law or the NFA that permits this. This an internet rumor that has grown legs over the years. I own NFA items and did my research on this before purchasing my first NFA item. You being an FFL or NFA owner does not give the .gov open access at anytime of their choosing to your business or home without a warrant.
“There is no provision is any law or the NFA that permits this.”
If you read his statement, ““..once you have a PAL …you can be visited at any time by the police …You are not entitled to be there for the inspection….” you’ll see his referring to this in connection with the PAL. Since the PAL is a Canadian permitting system, and the NFA is an American permitting system, it seems unlikely that his statement was implying that he was referring to American gun laws.
Ok, thanks for the clarification Zero. I was unaware he was Canadian, thought he might have been referring to state law, because I was not familiar with PAL.
Don’t know if he’s Canadian. He might not be for all I know…I was just saying that in his example he was referring to Canadian laws. Funnily enough, as repressive as we think Canadian gun laws are, they are afforded some things we in the US are not.
Right, I was speaking of the Canadian system. i lived in that hellhole of tyranny for ten years.
My current project is an AR pistol, 5.56, 10 inch barrel with a Cry Havoc QD, Surefire QD suppressor, Franklin binary trigger, and a red dot…
Waiting on the suppressor, and have a couple of 60-rnd mags on order.
It all starts with saying “NO!”