Im not a bad person, but I am a bit of a pragmatist. And it occurs to me that if the Kung Flu takes hold here, and the infirm/elderly/medically compromised are the most likely to die from it……
<deep breath>
….there may be a buying opportunity coming up for real estate and vehicles.
Think about…the 82 year old guy down the street who has the little oxygen tank he carries in a backpack….he catches it, winds up in the hospital, and…adios. And now his estate needs to be settled and that property needs to be sold, or that newer pickup he only drove to the VFW and to CostCo….
Now, I’m not wishing for someone to die. I’m just saying that if it does turn out to be Capt. Tripps, there might be some opportunities to upgrade. Of course, there’s always the possibility that I’m the one who shuffles off to Sto’Vo’Kor and someone else winds up the beneficiary of my gear and supplies. :::shrug::: hey, ya gotta die of something.
Sidenote: apparently in the Middle Ages, the Black Death wiped out such a huge part of the European population that land ownership and the subsequent economics were fundamentally changed in ways that lasted for hundreds of years.
Death rate for Corona is pretty much the same as the regular flu that sweeps the US every winter as far as I can see. So that makes 2 flus hitting the US this year. 2x the buying ops!
So why so much doom and gloom in the media over just another flu?
My parents have a neighbor who is a true Vulture. This old guy just waits until someone in the neighborhood dies then swoops in and hits up the bereaved to buy the house for cash. SIGNIFICANTLY under market, of course. I may have to jerk his chain when my parents’ times come.
typical flu death percentage of .01, Covid19 death percentage of .3 – .4%. that is 30-40 times the death rate.
Death rate is considered 3.4% according to Fauchi. Not like influenza (0.1%)
Reports are +/-3% for serious cases much less for mortality(.3%),of course this is based on tested cases of which there is little of as symptoms are mild flu(you wouldn’t get treatment much less tested). Newest theory is this escaped after being especially modified at University of North Carolina-Charlotte(one of a few places able to do this gene modification). Strange how it showed up in China and Iran but patient zero unknown,anybody giving odds on false flag op and if it is traced back?
Covid-19 is worse than seasonal flu. Why? We’re able to vaccinate the high risk population against the seasonal flu. To date Covid-19 has been 100% fatal to individuals in the U.S. who have immune challenged systems. If you’re health with no underlying issues, this virus will be nothing more than a nuisance.
Flu vaccines are rarely effective and often more dangerous than the flu. If they were safe and effective they wouldn’t need “PERFECT IMMUNITY” under the law. Almost all infected quickly recover even with underlying conditions.
No! the flu vac is a guess, they never know which flu strain raises its head. someone is making a shit ton of money off it. as for healthy population, not really.
You’re right it can be a guess, but that guess is based on the strains of the flu that are seen in the southern hemisphere during the previous 6 months to a year. Is it perfect? nope, but it is better than nothing. Some people are at risk but not from the vaccination itself, but the process in which the vaccine is made. However, if you get this virus and come in contact with someone who has a suppressed immune system, you’re signing their death warrant. So, carry on nothing to see here!!!!
Back in 2008-2009 I had a few stints of unemployment and was part of a few job-seeker groups (coached each other on interview questions, shared job leads, etc.).
At one meeting there was news that an older man had died. No one in the meeting knew him but someone knew the company he had worked for. I spoke up and suggested that for someone, his death created a job opening.
Everyone thought I was a vulture. But the reality was that someone within his company would slide up and at some point they’d need an outsider to fill a vacancy. I didn’t wish for his death, but pragmatically, it eventually helped some poor guy looking for a job.
” this virus will be nothing more than a nuisance.”
–you say that, and many others do too, but BASED ON WHAT? Besides wishful thinking?
The evidence from Italy is that if you are sick enough to be hospitalized you have a 1 in three chance of dying.
There is evidence from China that getting it a second time (totally possible as having it doesn’t grant lasting immunity) leads to sudden death by heart failure. There are a distressing number of videos of people in China walking along and then falling down dead. Just like that. And it’s common enough that no one tries to help or even goes to the victim.
So no, it’s not just like the flu. Based on facts in evidence. And reasonable extrapolation. See also Aesop at https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/ for additional info.
n
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Mass die-offs are indeed a ‘boon’ for the survivors. I see that in Japan, even pre-Kung Flu, some cities will GIVE new residents a house on the condition they make it a primary residence. Already dealing with a upside-down birth rate, there’s going to be A LOT of estates being sold off.
An empty house pays no taxes or spends $$$ in the community. Gaining a new resident makes sense.
BUT
that house had better be properly cleaned lest the former owner passes on COVID to the recipient.
Yep. Perhaps “seal it up” for a good 30 days, then bleach the snot out of it.
Seems like a lot of BS stats out there when you start looking. Not calling anyone out here as none of know exactly who to believe/trust. Yes, being out of shape (voluntarily or not) is always going to hurt your survival odds be it the flu or hiking out of a place you don’t want to be.
CZ’s premise that being prepared for whatever life throws at you DOES give buying ops is spot on regardless
My Friends. On Monday last I went to my local gun store to purchase Black Rifle Coffee for my wife. She is a big coffee drinker and really likes Black Rifle. I took the opportunity to look at all the firearms. In the used pistol case I saw a Mod. 96 Beretta, in very nice condition. A young male clerk assisted me with looking at the pistol. The price was $350.00. I thought it was a good price. It turned out the young man helping me was the owner. He was divorcing his wife of 15 years. I felt badly for the young man. I told him so. He told me I was doing him a favor as he needed the money. I could tell he hated to sell the pistol. I told him it was going to a good home and will be well cared for. I have been looking for a Beretta .40 cal pistol as I have a 9 m/m barrel for it. This pistol is a rather rare bird in my area. Please tell me. Am I a vulture? If You buy something at a flea market or garage sale are You a vulture? It is in the way you look at things. I really will take good care of that pistol. It has a history. At least to me.
I’ve had people in similar straits sell me guns that I knew they didn’t want to let go. I usually make them a deal like this -“I’ll pay you a little less than what youre asking BUT if you can get that money back to me by (Month/date) I’ll sell it back to you for what you paid me. If you don’t pay me back by then, I keep it.” Usually I wind up selling the gun back to them, so I’m sort of like a no-interest pawnbroker in that regard, but having been in that kind of circumstance I don’t mind helping out.
That is a kindness given CZ – good on you. Its those damn ‘humps’ in income that can cause people to do regrettable actions. Giving them a chance to recoup helps a lot.
Good on ya, CZ.
Respect
Opportunity comes in many guises. Being wise is not the same as being indifferent to the loss of others.
It is definitely an interesting history to consider, that extensive loss of not only owners but of producers…
The 82 year old guy who dies from Corona virus was going to die in a few years anyway. If you look at the big picture, say 5 or 10 years, they’re no more deaths then usual .
I thought the same thing when I found out that the elderly are more apt to die from this virus (as well as a lot of other things) – my husband & I are in the high risk group. If a lot of the elderly die quickly, it will free up assets for the young. So someone might get our 20 acre piece of heaven pretty cheap – the kids don’t want it. 🙂
I make my living buying at estate sales and thrift stores. In the beginning I felt bad, like I was ‘taking advantage’ of people some how. Time and familiarity solved that as did realizing that I wasn’t forcing the sale, nor was I setting (and accepting) the price. Rarely I’ll identify something that thru ignorance was incorrectly priced far too low, but the sellers are as reluctant to believe their price is too low as they are to believe it’s too high. Almost always I see too many items priced far too high thru ignorance of the market and the idea that “I paid XXX for this, so that’s what it’s worth”. No, it’s not. It’s worth what people will pay.
As long as you aren’t coercing the transaction, I don’t think there is anything “unfair” about it. Almost always the seller has either chosen not to believe an expert, failed to do their homework, or at the very least made the base decision to sell in the first place. If they’ve freely made that decision to sell, then price is what it is.
nick
I remember the mass inoculations that took place in the 70’s. I spent an hour in line, 30 air inoculations at a single time. We came back and everyone had the flu that year, but not the swine flu.
I was the sickest that I’ve been having no money I was out of work for 8 weeks. My boss was ready to fire me until he heard me coughing when he called my wife.
My friend had a side effect that left her in a wheelchair for life.
Don’t rush the vaccine.
Yeah, I’m a ghoul too. Remember in the STAND:
BRING OUT YOUR DEAD
If you are interested in buying estates,two best methods are through probate lawyers and reverse mortage sales(they are not necessarily deceased just not occupants) and business card to lawyers/re agents and proof you can close is all that is needed.
If you are near me this will not work.
So…if I knew an octogenarian Vermonter at high-risk for a heart attack in the near-term with big houses……
OK…. THAT is funny!
Gotta go wipe off my ipad.
I imagine being a vulture is pretty common in Florida. Or anywhere else with large retirement communities. Practically a job category. I myself have benefitted from being the “gun guy” in estate disposal situations. In each case, they came to me and I was as fair to them and myself as I could be.
The ‘Goodwill’ stores in& around the Sarasota/Bradenton area are pretty awesome, with all the wealthy snowbirds who chose to expire down there.
Selection and quality were good, but the prices were a lot higher than I’m used to in Houston….
n
The Black Plague was indeed an economic boon for those who survived it.
And I thought I was the only one who saw upsides to this kind of stuff.
Not the only one…. I began researching companies in the business of death …funeral conglomerates, casket makers, flower sellers…
Look no further than the WA nursing home to see the death rate for those in later years in facilities they cannot leave and dependent on skilled care. I believe we will see more of that with similar outcomes.
In college years ago, We were taught a little different than today. In world history we were taught that the Black Plague depopulated the country side and cities in particular. To such an extent that it effected the economy. People who worked the land, Land Serfs, were able to leave the land and go to cities. Physical labor became valuable enough to subsist on without starving. We would call that a living wage. In a way it has continued to this day. Interesting.