Personally, I have no use for a bump stock. I imagine that if the time comes I ever need a machine gun, there will be plenty of them laying around. However, I am always a fan of ATFE getting cleat marks in their wedding tackle.
ATFE has been overstepping their bounds and creating ‘laws’ out of whole cloth when, in actuality, they can only enforce…not create…regulations.
I will say that while I have no interest in the bump stock for my own use, I think this decision will be an important one in regards to the ‘wrist brace’ issue. We shall see. I do have an interest in the ‘wrist brace’ issue since I’d rather avoid the whole NFA $200 registration nonsense if I can.
Never been a fan, either. Might get a couple dozen now just because FYTW.
I’m another that doesn’t see a personal use for a bump stock.
The brace ruling does have me running numbers and reviewing realistic uses….
Steelheart
Hopefully SCOTUS will apply this same logic to FRTs.
This was posted to AMMOLAND.COM on 06-13-24 regarding the pistol brace situation.
https://www.ammoland.com/2024/06/federal-judge-vacates-the-atfs-pistol-brace-rule/
As fast as some people, with practice, can shoot a semi-auto or even a bolt/pump action, I really don’t see the need for a bump stock or for that matter a full auto. When the Brits showed up in Germany during WWII they thought the fast fire from the Lee Enfield’s were machine guns it was coming so fast. Dove hunting with my boss one time he mentioned how much ammo I was going thru with my ‘auto gun’. When I pointed out that it was a pump shotgun, he said three shots sounded almost like one to him it was so quick.
But when I hit the lottery a Thompson full auto .45 is on the list. Watch Jerry Miculek with a double action revolver or Bob Munden (single action!) put on speed shows on videos. Those two are sort of genetic freaks though.
People are free to indulge with whatever blows their skirt up so to each their own.
To me, most of the use for a machine gun is to turn money into noise – I say this as someone who owns many, both transferable and post sample.
But as mentioned, I like anything that relaxes regulations and holds back the regulatory state. I may get one when they are available again just because they are.
I have zero interest in bump-stocks. I do agree that seeing the BATFEIEIO take a swift kick to the brain cells is enjoyable.
Of more note is the Supremes once again telling a Feddy agency they can’t just make shit up. Chevron is staggering, and that’s the real joy in this.
full auto of any kind is a waste of ammo in my book, its always about shot placement for me, but there is always the intimidation factor on potential looters with a full auto.
like Richard Pryer once said, don’t come around here no mo. you on Mr Gilmores property!!
Full auto belt feds are really useful. Mag fed carbines in full auto are a real meh for me.
One question that was never answered when the idiot shot up music concert in Vegas was. Why did this guy have so many rifles. Because Bump stocks jam. They are not reliable. The shooter was shooting till his rifle jammed and then switched to another. I’ve seen several videos with these. I was never impressed.
I have zero interest in bump stocks. IMO they are just a gimmick.
I do, however like to see the ATFE get a reality check.
i wasn’t enthused by the ruling myself until i saw a vid on x from the litigant himself explaining that this ruling sets a new president that affects braces, triggers et al and any other arbitrary “rule” the batshitcrazyfe can come up with in the future.
Bump stocks are a uniquely American response to a stupid fecking law….the entire ban on fully auto weapons. When Americans are told we can’t do something because of a stupid law, we find solutions that circumvent the law.
And the law about FA weapons is indeed stupid. Once you’ve fired off the first mag full, it gets REALLY expensive, REALLY fast. A self-limiting problem. I have some FA weapons that my father bought when they were cheaper, and I let friends have one mag free – after that, they bring their own ammo. And 50 rounds of .45 ACP isn’t exactly cheap any more.
And bump stocks? FA weapons are inherently less accurate than their semi variants, with all that mass flying around. Bump stocks increase that mass considerably, reducing accuracy. And only accurate guns are interesting
Better a good, crisp trigger with a short reset for fast, fairly accurate fire. I’m not Jerry Miculek (nobody is!), but I don’t find it hard to do a short “burst” of semiauto shots from a stock Glock pistol. As long as I’m very close to the target, I can even keep them all on the silhouette! 😉 I’ve also watched a person do a series of paired shots–two semiauto shots from an AR. The split times between the shots were so short that each pair almost sounded like a single gunshot. Who needs a bump stock? I believe they should be sold in vending machines, but I think I’ll pass.